> there is a post on this thread from someone claiming to be from Adobe
> however.
User-to-user doesn't mean Adobe employees are excluded. It means that
this is people helping people, maybe even some of them from Adobe. It
also means that no one here is going to fix the software for you.
Does the problem go away if you get your files off the network? Network
file linking problems are pretty common, and the simplest workaround is
to stop working through the network.
> Disastrous. Someone needs to be fired.
User-to-user also means that ranting gets you ignored.
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Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com
Hi Peter & Kenneth,
Many programs understand relative paths. If I move a project directory (and keep all its subdirectories intact), opening up that project in InDesign should result in no differences to me. Instead, I have to re-link each file that already exists in the projects subfolder. Why? This makes no sense. Call it ranting if you want, but this seems like a pretty major oversight to me. I am a paying customer and when Adobe introduces a bug or misses such a critical feature, I have every right to complain.
And yes, I realize that InDesign has an area where it warns you about missing links (the... uhh... *Links* panel). I have been using InDesign since it was introduced (and was a very vocal advocate of it over Quark), it's just that this notification function *does not work* in this particular instance. There is NO visual clue as to why you are not able to export or print anything, and the error simply states itself as an error and that’s it. Several of the people in my studio spent several hours today all struggling with the same problem until someone stumbled upon the solution with trial and error. Not acceptable. If you think that it is, then you are not the target of my messages and I will thank you for your response but encourage you to spend your time replying to other threads that apply more directly to you.
Thanks.
Handling of missing links HAS changed, and in my opinion for the worse, but at the request of users, so that missing links no longer open the Links panel automatically or ask you to update on opening as they used to, though you should still receive a warning that the links are missing UNLESS YOU HAVE TURNED IT OFF IN YOUR PREFERENCES. It's on by default and you will find the option under the file handling section.
The rationale is that many workflows do not require that links be intact to accomplish the current editing, and longer documents with hundreds of missing links used to take many minutes to open while ID searched, essentially costing those users lots of money.
IF you have stored the links in the same directory as the .indd file, and IF you have moved the entire directory and IF you have enabled finding missing links when opening files, InDesign will find and update the locations for the links when the file is opened. If ID is unable to locate a link, because it is not in the current directory or a subfolder, you will see a warning message (in the past you would have had the option to browse for the missing files), and you must open the links panel if you wish to fix them manually.
In my opinion this is a very acceptable situation, and a great benefit to all types of workflows. I need to know links are modified or missing, so I've left that enabled. Those who don't need to know are no longer bothered or delayed. I suggest you pay a visit to the preferences and make sure that missing/modified checks are enabled, and if you are still having problems then your links aren't stored in the same directory, and that has always been an issue in ID when things get moved.
> I have every right to complain.
You're missing the point. You're complaining to other *paying
customers*. No one here is going to fix your bug. If you really have a
bug, file a report at
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
> Not acceptable. If you think that it is,
I really have no opinion about it. I'm not seeing the behavior you're
seeing, so it's really easy for me to believe you're getting yourself
all worked up about nothing, especially because:
1) You haven't answered my question. Does the problem go away when you
get the files off the network?
2) You haven't answered Peter's question. In Edit > Preferences > File
Handling, is "Check Links Before Opening Document" turned off? How about
"Find Missing Links Before Opening Document"? What is "Default Relink
Folder" set to?
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Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com
Works for me. Indesign does understand relative paths. If I move a
directory it still knows where the links in subdirectories go.
As you say, it makes no sense that it would work as you describe.
Hey everyone, I am trying to open a CS3 file in CS1 and was wondering if exporting it in a PDF then opening it in Illustrator to make changes works for you. Any other ideas for editing this file? Thanks!
On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated ...
Adobe Illustrator is not, repeat not, repeat yet AGAIN not a general PDF file editor. The only PDF files that Adobe Illustrator can “edit” losslessly are PDF files saved by the same version of Illustrator using the “save editability” option available at PDF file creation time. Any and all other attempts to edit PDF files with Adobe Illustrator may and very often result in (1) loss of content, (2) text encoding changes, and/or (3) color space changes.
Opening and editing general PDF files (and I include PDF files created either directly via PDF export from InDesign or those created via distillation of PostScript from InDesign) is therefore strongly discouraged as a dangerous workflow practice.
- Dov
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